Tuesday, September 9, 2014

Tom and Chris talk about Apple's iPhone Event!


Well, it happened.  Apple finally unveiled their newest tech gadgets for the new year.  And they are impressive...looking, to say the least.  There's the iPhone 6, and the iPhone 6 Plus, which are your basic smartphone and phablet devices out of  Cupertino.  There are a great many places to find a great deal of information about these devices.

But, if you're just in the mood for a laugh, here's Tom and I cracking jokes, pondering the future of Android, and generally bitching about Apple's yearly conference of planned obsolescence.  Enjoy (and feel free to rightfully assume that everything here is [sic]'d to the dickens.)


Tom Fennell 

My twitter timeline right now:
Apple
Apple
Apple
Apple
snarky thing about Apple
Moto 360
Apple

Chris Kopech 

subtweet 
weather
apple

Chris Kopech 

20 minutes until our phones become even more obsolete
proablby 

Tom Fennell -

bigger, blacker iphone 6 plus

Chris Kopech -

yeah
really

Tom Fennell 

Chris Kopech 

already there

Tom Fennell 

very, very attractive.

Chris Kopech 

tried to load the stream off Apple.com
but you need safari
because of course you need safari

Tom Fennell 

Install Safari! LOLZ
I'm having trouble pushing out the dirty thoughts right now, pending this watch announcement. Mother google forgive me.

Chris Kopech 

I'm doing similar things
ooof
they meh'd out on the screen
even though, blah blah, retina
but still

Tom Fennell 

Without doing the math, I feel like that isn't even an improvement? just more real estate?

Chris Kopech 

that's all it is
yeah
the plus is just going to be an iPad Mini killer

Tom Fennell 

two pane in landscape, good call

Chris Kopech 

that is cool

Tom Fennell 

eyup
landscape home screen
cute
#haditforyears

Chris Kopech 

lol
it all just looks so pretty on new hardware
just keep remembering
everything this thing can do is bolstered by brand new software, too
and you'd only get features that have been missing, not,  you konw, there for three years

Tom Fennell 

hahaha reachability is terrible.

Chris Kopech 

a whole generation of idiots who have no clue how to use big phones
cough i have a notification shade on my home bar cough

Tom Fennell 

"oh, yours doesn't scroll to bring the buttons closer to your thumb? bummer."
that CNN scaling image is weird...no content flow, just bigger shit.
n/m, jumped 'em on that. 
dammit, that "bigger, customized for 6+" CNN view looks stellar.

Chris Kopech 

that's a nice little software hack on the G3

Tom Fennell 

daaang, that's cool

Chris Kopech 

I can do whatever I want with the buttons
hence home is on the right, not the middle

Tom Fennell 

beats the gesture option on Nova, since I assume it's everywhere

Chris Kopech 

yes, that's correct
though I had one of those, too
christ
I've been trying to screw with getting teh stream to work on my work PC
and
I just figured out
MY FUCKING MBP IS SITTING RIGHT NEW TO ME

Tom Fennell 

haha

Chris Kopech - 1:22 PM

that's so dumb
of me
christ
eyah
game looks tihgt
try playing it on any other iphone

Tom Fennell 

haha
just watching the liveblog, so I believe ya
this fitness stuff really has started winning me over.
the phone has a fucking barometer in it?!

Chris Kopech 

the DInc did, too
or one of my old ones did

Tom Fennell 

I didn't realize that was a thing people did.

Chris Kopech 

it isn't
until n ow, I guess
wifi calling
hmmm
HAVE IT
tmo has had it for a year

Tom Fennell 

Score one for TMo
I am definitely a little sick of having a phone with a sub-par camera.
I shouldn't be, owning a couple good and actual cameras
But it's still the one you have with you.

Chris Kopech 

agreed
decent specs
I really think we put too much creedence in smartphone cameras
but I have an Android, so, I should say that

Tom Fennell 

haha
Then again an entire generation will have their baby pictures only in Facebook album thumbnails, so we might as well maximize quality while we can.

Chris Kopech 

fair point

Tom Fennell 

optical image stabilization is a fucking revelation.

Chris Kopech 

have it on my phone

Tom Fennell -

Only thing that'll be more special than that in a mobile device is actual optical zoom, not digital
You do? not software stabilization, but the lens actually moves?

Chris Kopech 

I believe it's OIS, yes

Tom Fennell 

damn. Good. Glad it's not iP exclusive

Chris Kopech -

i fucking love how apple has to teach a generation of buyers how to use a big phone
it's cracking me up
we made it special so that you can use it one-handed!
they're plowing thru this thing, as Verge keeps noting

Tom Fennell 

yeah, I noticed that

Chris Kopech -

jesus
299 on a 2 year
fuck me
and 199 for a 16gb
good lord

Tom Fennell 

on contract

Chris Kopech 

yeah

Tom Fennell 

Sprint doesn't play "on contract" any more

Chris Kopech 

true
same with TMo
they ship in 10 days
wow

Tom Fennell 

If this watch is fuckin spectacular, I may have a problem.

Chris Kopech 

remember
everything this phone has, yours has already had

Tom Fennell 

Hahaha it's true.

Chris Kopech -

also

Tom Fennell 

well, camera stuff

Chris Kopech 

apple's safari feed fucking sucks

Tom Fennell 

but otherwise, totally

Chris Kopech 

keeps dying
mobile payments
BEEN THERE
but my guess is that Apple will get it right
unless the carriers start fucking with them

Tom Fennell 

Maybe they will...but the touch-to-pay pads are already starting to disappear, it seems

Chris Kopech 

yep

Tom Fennell 

7-eleven always used to have 'em, and they're gone. CVS too, I believe.

Chris Kopech -

walgreens has 'em
love me some walgreens
my biggest sticking point
about iOS
no app drawer
makes me want to scream

Tom Fennell 

IT'S JUST GOOGLE WALLET
With a finger swiper

Chris Kopech -

mine has a pin
who cares

Tom Fennell 

mine too

Chris Kopech -

it's the same thing
had it for a year

Tom Fennell 

good, at least now everybody'll put the pads in
exactly

Chris Kopech -

very good point

Tom Fennell -

NFC on top is a good idea.

Chris Kopech 

Android Police is always fun after these events
that means it isn't battery dependent, I would think

Tom Fennell 

for the "How long we've had these features" rundown

Chris Kopech 

but AP = fun because they basically have to talk people off the ledge

Tom Fennell 

haha
This is what they wished that Passbook was this whole time
or whatever it was called, that held the gift cards and boarding passes on your iPhone
"We are not in the business of collecting your data." That should be in every ad they run for a while in the tech circles.

Chris Kopech 

yeah

Tom Fennell 

Announcing Visa and MasterCard like they're strategic partners in this venture
It's a payment system, I'd expect to use major CCs

Chris Kopech 

right

Tom Fennell 

Now they get credit for every one of those pads that we've been using for the last 18 months.
well done.
slowclap.avi

Chris Kopech 

lol

Tom Fennell 

The Crowd goes wild for Whole Foods. What the shit. If Apple could claim they invented PINs, they'd have suddenly invented ATMs, too

Chris Kopech 

not impressed yet
not even close
like the design of the new phones, tho
they pretty

Tom Fennell 

very

Chris Kopech -

bu tnothing earth shattering yet
pay with Google

Tom Fennell 

They should redesign the beats "b" logo to include a bite out of the right side

Chris Kopech -

Pay with PayPal
same shit

Tom Fennell -

Why would I need to Apple Pay through Uber when I don't mind giving Uber my card? Just so I don't *have* to give Uber my CC#?

Chris Kopech -

walgreen's specifically has a pay with google
same shit differnt OS
NILAY PATEL10:55:39 AM PDT
This is a really really good idea, but it's going to take a long time — and some bigger batteries — before anyone can actually get rid of their credit cards.

Tom Fennell 

Bravo, Tim, with the "One more thing..."

Chris Kopech 

here we go

Tom Fennell 

...

Chris Kopech 

it's a new ipod!!!!

Tom Fennell 

haha
made me look.

Chris Kopech 

I want to see what it looks like
that's all

Tom Fennell 

It's gonna be round.
no doubt
if they do square with similar edges, forget it

Chris Kopech 

since I'm not bought into the apple ecosystem, I don't care otherwise

Tom Fennell 

right
The livestream says "Round." "Square!"

Chris Kopech 

hysterical
I have that on my pcmonitor
and the apple stream on m other one

Tom Fennell 

Ah, k.

Chris Kopech 

and GChat on more

Tom Fennell 

god these things are going to be everywhere
IT'S AN IPOD NANO! JOKE'S ON YOU, FANBOYS!

Tom Fennell - 2:00 PM

the company that does that Lunatik is across the street from my office
I should go over and see how they're doing
The Verge, January 2015: "Apple Battles to Trademark 'watch' "
The dial is cute.
round face on the square watch just looks stupid.

Chris Kopech 

this is just a Nano on a band with a HRM
(I hope)

Tom Fennell 

He'd be an idiot not to zing hard at the battery discussion

Chris Kopech 

we're about to hear it

Tom Fennell -

For fucks sake, Jony, even Dieter designed some square clock faces. Get over yourself.

Chris Kopech -

oh christ
I hate Ive
ahte him
can't fucking stand him
And I love how every video makes fun of him
I hate the home screen
hate it
WHY MUST I SEE ALL MUY APPS
WHYYYY

Tom Fennell 

I Didn't realize that's actually the home screen
DESIGN SOMETHING SQUARE

Chris Kopech - 2:09 PM

what the fuck
TOM HOLD ON I'M'A SEND YOU MY HEARTBEAT
the fuck

Tom Fennell 

oh good, the screen senses force...so it can scold me when I accidentally bash it against a doorframe?

Chris Kopech 

lol

Tom Fennell 

Apple decided to make this thing look like its own thing, as long as the colors and fonts match

Chris Kopech 

lol

Tom Fennell 

Google wanted AW to look like Google Now

Chris Kopech -

this is a cool watch
I'll agree with that
but
it's all about ecosystem
I wouldn't move over to an iPhone for this watch
or android for AW right now
I'm a big fan of early adoption
but not like this
this so clearly isn't there yet
fuck

Tom Fennell 

Agreed

Chris Kopech 

the strap changing is cool doe

Tom Fennell 

Aww, a designer sized watch and a man sized watch

Chris Kopech -

that's actually a good idea
any guesses on launch?
I'm saying Oct 1

Tom Fennell -

10/15-11/1
still here by christmas.
I'm going ballistic that they won't show enough square stuff filling the watch face
Oh, look who's embracing widgets now
Does Google have "long press" tied up in IP?
Is that why they had to make a flexy screen that can feel a durable poke?

Chris Kopech 

aparently
not impressed yet
because I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT PLANETS

Tom Fennell -

"Hey, I can see Uranus on my watch."

Chris Kopech -

gonna hear that one a lot

Tom Fennell -

#thingspervertsandtechiessay

Chris Kopech -

right, AW does all of this

Tom Fennell 

If Apple carried out this music player's UI back to iOS, it would look like a Motorola-skinned Android device from five years ago.
Should we just publish this chat log on the blog? haha
We should've figured out liveblogging.

Chris Kopech 

of course

Tom Fennell 

It's weird how you can't actually tell where the screen ends
#glarepocalypse

Chris Kopech 

those emoji are terrifying

Tom Fennell 

I mean, you know where the glass ends and the bezel starts...but the usable area is a question mark.
That emoji should haunt Jony Ive for the rest of his life.

Chris Kopech -

I hope so

Tom Fennell -

Remember, the liveblog is showing images of the watch face that must be at least 100% larger in both directions
how small is the viewable area??

Chris Kopech 

it looks really small

Tom Fennell 

I guess the scale is browser-dependent
but still
way small

Chris Kopech 

how far out does the crown go to make it easy to use?

Tom Fennell -

"force touch" will be the tech joke of the month.

Chris Kopech 

lol
yeah
I mean
this is nice

Tom Fennell 

it is nice

Chris Kopech 

Apple people will fucking love it

Tom Fennell -

It looks like what Duarte would've done at Palm if it still existed

Chris Kopech 

taptic feedback
come on

Tom Fennell -

This is bizzarro-world Palm OS Watch.
cute bubbles, rounded cards, black background everything, smooth stone edges

Chris Kopech -

I'm just gonna sit here and wait for the Googapple nexPhone

Tom Fennell -

Chris Kopech -

pretty spot on

Tom Fennell 

Suck that, Apple.

Chris Kopech 

hhahhahahhaa
this is so werid

Tom Fennell 

hahaha
Oh, really? third parties can make apps for the watch? Weird.
I can honestly say that Google was more prepared for this with Now -> AW than apple appeared to be.
If they don't show a scannable QR code filling that screen, they're idiots.

Chris Kopech 

that's because Google now is that good
there's nothing like that on Apple
they have that on Google Now, the parking thing
and scores
and Nest

Tom Fennell 

No wonder Nike said they're getting out of hardware
Apple told 'em this was in the pipeline
You're going to exercise in your metal-braceleted gold-plated AppleWatch? I think not.
Only works with iPhones in the 5 and 6 levels
EARLY 2015

Chris Kopech 

Wooooooooof

Tom Fennell 

Aaaaand no mention of battery life.
Apple Pay works on the watch. Kinda cool.
Except for having to explain to EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN FAST RETAIL why you aren't handing them a card, and instead waiting for them to turn on the pad so you can hit it with your wristwatch.

Tom Fennell 

$349

Chris Kopech 

Pffbb

Tom Fennell 


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